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#212360 - 2009-01-21 03:35:28 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: Tom Wetmore]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore

Second, I have grown very weary of logging on here and doing my usual check of the active topics only to discover dozens of new( reyes) posts that have nothing new in them, and new( reyes) topics that have already been pounded into the ground already, even recently, or multiple topics about the same topic in which the same people are repeating what they posted in the other same topics. 98% of what is posted in some of the seemingly most active topics is a virtual avalanche of post after post of nothing but quotes of previous posts, long collections of EGW quotes, lists of Bible verses, or the same 2 or 3 posters repeating the same things they have said, and what others have already said, for the last 30 pages of the topic, and often the same thing they always say, no matter what the topic. I either have to rapidly skim through to glean for any new thoughts on the topic or give up and move to another topic.




The world already is full of thought control freaks, no offense meant, Tom. I come from the premise every person should be applauded for thinking the way they wish, especially if they are willing to accept personal consequences of their unabashed effort to present truthfulness as they understand it. IMHO only those afraid they will lose control or other coveted power, seek to make sure others only think and say what those who are fearful accept as best, correct and proper.

World wars have ensued directly attributable to one or a few thought control police.

OTOH some of the greatest discoveries of the age have been a result of individuals who wouldn't let others put their thoughts and actions in a straight jacket.

Even your own effort to circumscribe the thoughts of others has the right of freedom to do just that, as it will promote a sense of responsibility in others to reject association with any effort for thought police, unless joining a segment of society searching for elitism that separates the perceived lesser of society.

It's always good to leave to Him Who is able to read the hearts of men, who shall be the tares and who shall be the wheat.
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#212361 - 2009-01-21 03:43:41 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: pkrause]
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Originally Posted By: pkrause
So Tom I guess your the first to go against your own rule!!! hahahahahahahaha


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LOL LOL ROFL ROFL hifive
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#212362 - 2009-01-21 03:50:25 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: Tom Wetmore]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore
Ever conscious of being forced to eat my own words, I seasoned them, cooked them well and savored the delicious irony myself before offering them for consumption of others. smilewink

Sometimes it takes a violation of the rule to best understand it.


"Every man's way is right in his own eyes...." Proverbs 21:2 NASB
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#212363 - 2009-01-21 03:57:42 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: Ellen]
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Originally Posted By: Ellen
The test of EGW's inspiration is to read her literature. I get so incensed with people who know so much about what her writings is Not and having never read more than a line or two here and there.

I have read the conflict series and am reading the testimonies through. I especially recommend volume 9 - I think every Adventist convert should be required to read the last chapters of that book.

Funny thing, the ones who are bothered most about the inspiration of her writings are the ones who don't want to believe them and those of us who have had a spiritual feast from them don't need the external proof.


hifive And agreed, but then those you refer to would lose the power and control and could only risk putting their arm out of joint by patting themselves on the back.
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#212364 - 2009-01-21 04:04:09 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: Tom Wetmore]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore
If invested with moderator super-powers of deletion,


A favorite form of personal power, to weed out the undesirables. Stalin and chairman Mao come to mind.
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#212407 - 2009-01-21 11:27:18 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: LifeHiscost]
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You seem to have missed the point entirely... reyes
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#212409 - 2009-01-21 11:35:48 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: LifeHiscost]
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The world already is full of thought control freaks, no offense meant, Tom. I come from the premise every person should be applauded for thinking the way they wish, especially if they are willing to accept personal consequences of their unabashed effort to present truthfulness as they understand it. IMHO only those afraid they will lose control or other coveted power, seek to make sure others only think and say what those who are fearful accept as best, correct and proper.


I have found this to be true. But the point of this thread is that those who think they are right and want to control ... are those who quote volumes of EGW ... page after page. If only they could give us an original thought and just a few snippets ... it would spare those of us who reject the EGW mind-readers.
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#212668 - 2009-01-22 06:49:51 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: Woody]
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I have found this to be true. But the point of this thread is that those who think they are right and want to control ... are those who quote volumes of EGW ... page after page. If only they could give us an original thought and just a few snippets ... it would spare those of us who reject the EGW mind-readers.


Point well taken. However it sometimes is those who feel themselves in need of a Higher Power, thus adding lengthy quotes to verify their settled conclusions, that remain consistent in obtaining power for personal useful service for others.

Those who wish not to learn from their source of inspiration need only to refrain from reading their quotes, especially the long and lengthy ones. After all, most of the world (not to mention a great many professed disciples of Christ) practice that with the Word.

"And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear." Ezekiel 3:11 KJV
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#212727 - 2009-01-22 13:11:19 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: Woody]
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Yes I see your point, but the problem is that when people have something to say that EGW or even the Bible says, everyone wants the reference's listed. So sometimes you can't get away from lots of quotes!!!!

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#212804 - 2009-01-22 16:42:25 Re: Original thoughts forum - one rule only [Re: pkrause]
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Since every other subforum here seems to have a near-terminal case of quote-itis, I don't think it will be any great hardship for those of you who have a problem with it to avoid the single quote free one. Or should it not even exist, in your opinion? And if that's the case, who's doing the thought-controlling?
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