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#246256 - 2009-05-26 15:53:03 Jesus was Post Modern
Stan Offline
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Thoughts?

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#246279 - 2009-05-26 18:54:02 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Stan]
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HEY STAN

WHAT do you mean by post modern???


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#246366 - 2009-05-27 03:28:13 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: dgrimm60]
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Well, I think the teachings of Jesus will always be a step ahead of modern understanding.
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#246475 - 2009-05-27 20:01:44 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: oldsailor29]
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If we see 'postmodernism' as a historical period (most philosophers don't), then Jesus was certainly premodern, since modernism is a phenomenon from the 17th century or so forward.

But a better sense of postmodernism is a suspicion of 'grand narratives': ideas that claim to explain the whole world. The dominant grand narrative in Jesus' place and time was that of the Pharisees and Sadducees, and Jesus certainly challenged that in all sorts of ways.
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#246503 - 2009-05-27 21:47:40 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Bravus]
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HEY BRAVUS


WELL thank you for your input it makes sense
to me now....


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#246545 - 2009-05-27 23:20:53 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: dgrimm60]
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A lot of young pastors have bought into the notion that Jesus was postmodern. At the same time, many older pastors take for granted that Jesus was modern.

here's a discussion:

Authentic Lunar Green Cheese and here:
The Gospel vs. "Now"
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#246564 - 2009-05-28 01:10:57 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: there buster]
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Good discussions there, sir.

I guess the other point is that none of our simple human category systems is sufficient to contain Jesus anyway, and when we project them onto him it says much more about us than it does about Him.
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#248515 - 2009-06-06 07:19:19 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Bravus]
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Although the principles of Jesus' teachings appear to be post modern now, they are in reality truths since before the foundations of the world. Men have forgotten those principles since sin and were foreign to them. That is also why Jesus came to this world to remind us through his life here what a true human being is suppose to be like.

There is also the fact that Jesus was presenting God's laws as opposed to human traditions. Now we can look back with perspective and judge the Pharisees, Sadducees, etc based on the principles we have adopted today throughout our christian experience. Similarly, today we must be careful not to make human traditions prevalent over God's law.

It is very important to refer to the Bible as the only "word of authority".

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#248843 - 2009-06-07 15:47:20 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Sebastien_0029]
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Amen. Saved me the trouble of saying it, and Bravus, there is good evidence that postmodernism originated in 18th century German universities.
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#249156 - 2009-06-09 08:57:28 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: olger]
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Olger, if you review how Jesus spoke with the "Church" leaders at that time, he was post modern.
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