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#249186 - 2009-06-09 14:31:13 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Stan]
Gail Offline
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Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
Olger, if you review how Jesus spoke with the "Church" leaders at that time, he was post modern.


There was a sermon at church this last weekend about as postmodern as one can get, and the pastor got the same reaction as did Jesus in His day...

But I encouraged him :) It was the youth pastor, no surprise.
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#249196 - 2009-06-09 16:05:11 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Stan]
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Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
Olger, if you review how Jesus spoke with the "Church" leaders at that time, he was post modern.
Dear President. Postmodernity refers to the jettisoning of absolutes, and the inclusion of relativism into the world-view.. Thus, our Lord was the opposite of PM, as He dispensed eternal objective truths daily.

Calling Jesus postmodern is a weak attempt to invest dignity into a system built on subjective modern doubt. Call George Reid and he'll say it much more eloquently. That's the news from Oslo,

ya'll be good



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#249205 - 2009-06-09 17:09:00 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: olger]
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Originally Posted By: olger
Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
Olger, if you review how Jesus spoke with the "Church" leaders at that time, he was post modern.
Dear President. Postmodernity refers to the jettisoning of absolutes, and the inclusion of relativism into the world-view.. Thus, our Lord was the opposite of PM, as He dispensed eternal objective truths daily.

Calling Jesus postmodern is a weak attempt to invest dignity into a system built on subjective modern doubt. Call George Reid and he'll say it much more eloquently. That's the news from Oslo,

ya'll be good



g


Maybe Jesus was an Orthodox Postmodern, or maybe a Fundamentalist Postmodern
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#249214 - 2009-06-09 17:23:48 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: oldsailor29]
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Jesus is and has always been revolutionary... He would be revolutionary talking even with postmoderns. He is what everyone needs no matter where they are coming from.
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#249218 - 2009-06-09 17:33:51 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Gail]
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Jesus was love incarnate...
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#249303 - 2009-06-09 22:50:18 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: olger]
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Quote:
Postmodernity refers to the jettisoning of absolutes, and the inclusion of relativism into the world-view..


For some, yes, but not all. The term, post modern, is rather broad and includes many areas of philosophy.
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#249307 - 2009-06-09 22:56:23 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: CoAspen]
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Yep. Sadly one more area in which Christians seem happy to make big statements about things they haven't put in the effort and study to really understand...
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#249315 - 2009-06-09 23:08:55 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Bravus]
CoAspen Online   walklikeegyptian


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A quick look at the subject and it soon becomes quite obvious that it is difficult to define and put forth an exact definition.

Can it really be discussed without a definition and will each person agree with that def.

I take as a convoluted way of just saying 'thinking outside the box'!!

Not sure if that is even close!!!
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#249335 - 2009-06-10 03:50:55 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: Bravus]
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I have studied postmodernism at length as a member of the ATS.

Approval of it is but an intellectual conceit of the western world, imo.


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#249336 - 2009-06-10 04:20:03 Re: Jesus was Post Modern [Re: olger]
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I would side with Olger and I would associate post-modern thought with that of Bazarov in "Fathers and Sons"... essentially that of a nihilist. Not to say that all post-modern thinkers are nihilists, but you could say that, as Olger noted, they tend to reject absolutes and authority and lean towards self expression and intellectual self-sufficiency and extreme relativism.

The bases for post-modern thought is that we can not truly know the truth... because there is no such thing according to post moder thinkers :). By defenition, the truth is absolute no matter which angle you look at it, because it's the most accurate reflection of reality. You can't confuse truth with interpretation of reality... two different things.

Ironically, "There's no absolute truth"... has to be an absolutely true statement for it to be true, so you end up running into this paradox of "this statement is false".

Jesus was MILES AWAY from post-modern thought. Not even close.

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