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#342298 - 2010-03-08 17:17:23 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
bonnie Offline


Registered: 2001-06-20
Posts: 8896
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
Sorry Bonnie, I should have been more accurate with what I wrote, and it is my opinion only. I would offer for proof, that if you followed a police officer, both on duty and off, around 24-7, that you would soon find a law that he broke.

If I followed you around 24/7 I am quite sure I would find a law you broke and very likely unchristian behavior.
Unless you have followed a number of police officers around as you describe you have not offered anything.


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There is no difference in my book from a thief who steals from you who claims to be a thief and a jack-booted thug who steals from you claiming that you violated some law and therefore forces you hand over YOUR possessions and give them to others.

No jack booted thug has stolen from me as of yet.Not sure who they are,but I have never been forced to hand over anything. I do know those that have stolen from me and others.Many thieves are sitting in jail waiting sentencing or in prison.That is precisely where they belong


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They seemed to have that same sort of problem in the day of Jesus, didn't they? Matthew WAS a tax collector, but stopped. Another tax collector gave what he stole, back when Jesus came into his life.

Crime has existed since Cain and Abel.What you are referring to and prisoners paying for their bed and board are two different issues

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The ONLY reason for income tax is for control! This makes everyone of us a slave--period! (ooops, did I say that?)
Income tax is a different topic as well.Most people understand that those in jail/prison now are not political prisoners. Most are just where they belong
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#342308 - 2010-03-08 17:50:49 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: bonnie]
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Registered: 2008-02-12
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Loc: California
Yes Bonnie, and most will take the Mark of the Beast too because of Romans 13.

If have have not found anyone who was a victim of the jack-booted thugs, then you have not been to or seen the long line of people waiting to pay their traffic fines.

Tell me, what is IT about using or talking on a cell phone that is criminal? Have not truckers been doing this for years using their CB radio? This is only part of the insane 'crimes' that have placed good people in our overcrowded jails!

Like popular radio hosts Jon and Ken said last week said, "They ought to make it against the law to pass insane laws!"

And if you think you are living right now in 'freedom' with your gun and your money, then I have real sad news for you! You are in dreamland!

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#342389 - 2010-03-08 20:37:12 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
bonnie Offline


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Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich

If have have not found anyone who was a victim of the jack-booted thugs, then you have not been to or seen the long line of people waiting to pay their traffic fines.


When I have had to pay a traffic fine,I had no one but myself to blame. Those I have had to pay resulted from speeding. My actions,not jack booted thugs

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Tell me, what is IT about using or talking on a cell phone that is criminal? Have not truckers been doing this for years using their CB radio? This is only part of the insane 'crimes' that have placed good people in our overcrowded jails!

I have never heard of anyone going to jail for using a cell phone. It is dangerous in case you haven't figured that out. Just ask the woman that rear ended me at a red light and shoved me into the stopped car ahead of me. It did not place "good people" in jail.It did cost her for having an argument with her boyfriend instead of paying attention to traffic. Checked our local stats from the paper today. The good people that have been jailed are for theft,repeated drunk driving arrests,writing bad checks,and assault,many times their spouse. Child abuse/molestation. They are exactly where they belong.Not political prisoners

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Like popular radio hosts Jon and Ken said last week said, "They ought to make it against the law to pass insane laws!"

Have no idea who these people are

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And if you think you are living right now in 'freedom' with your gun and your money, then I have real sad news for you! You are in dreamland!


It is true as time goes we will lose more and more of our freedoms. But in my dreamland I can go to church where I want,could choose the education I wanted for my children,live where I could afford to live,drive the car I wanted,vote for my choice,speak out against those not my choice.


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#342392 - 2010-03-08 20:54:53 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: bonnie]
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Anyone got any ideas why the US has by far the highest incarceration rate of any Western democracy? Four times the international average? Could it be precisely that imprisonment is big business, with its own lobbyists?
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#342419 - 2010-03-08 23:47:49 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Bravus]
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who?


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Posts: 7601
Originally Posted By: Bravus
Anyone got any ideas why the US has by far the highest incarceration rate of any Western democracy? Four times the international average? Could it be precisely that imprisonment is big business, with its own lobbyists?


Could it be because we have criminals in jail instead of running free?
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#342428 - 2010-03-09 00:19:02 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Bravus]
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Posts: 7551
Loc: Same as home church
Originally Posted By: Bravus
Anyone got any ideas why the US has by far the highest incarceration rate of any Western democracy? Four times the international average? Could it be precisely that imprisonment is big business, with its own lobbyists?
according to the correctional officers i know who work at the prison in our town, thats absolutely correct!!
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1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

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#342430 - 2010-03-09 00:25:42 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
teresaq(sda) Offline
Learning to take it to Jesus


Registered: 2009-04-01
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Loc: Same as home church
Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
Tell me, what is IT about using or talking on a cell phone that is criminal? Have not truckers been doing this for years using their CB radio? This is only part of the insane 'crimes' that have placed good people in our overcrowded jails!
i wasnt too happy with the lady merging onto the freeway with a cell stuck to her ear and didnt even look to see if someone was beside her or too close. nor looked back to see if she had missed hitting anyone.

im just thankful there wasnt a lot of traffic so that i was able to move over-without having a chance to check if there was anyone around me.

perhaps most cell users are responsible, but the irresponsible ones have caused too many accidents, like a friend of mine run into a fence, totaling her car and laid her up for a while with a hurt knee, cause the guy was distracted on his cell.
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2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

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#342431 - 2010-03-09 00:43:57 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: teresaq(sda)]
bonnie Offline


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Loc: MN
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Could it be precisely that imprisonment is big business, with its own lobbyists?
according to the correctional officers i know who work at the prison in our town, thats absolutely correct!!

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Wouldn't prison lobbyists be working for the employee's benefit instead of trying to somehow gain more prisoners?

I doubt that "big business" had much to do with drunk driving after revocation,with promoting more theft to gain more "business",for a spouse to beat up the other spouse,child abuse etc.That is pretty much weekly in our local paper
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#342608 - 2010-03-09 14:52:33 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: bonnie]
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Registered: 2008-02-12
Posts: 3241
Loc: California
its not about drunk driving or driving while your head is stuck in a dark hole--it is about those of us who do have a moral code to keep, but since it is a big business, all they want is numbers, just like hospitals want all their beds filled.

When I was a cop, they (the city I worked for, mandated that we write our quota of tickets so we could get paid. I also remember how they cooked the books to make it look like we had more crimes and needed more officers. I am sick and tired of politics, not only in jails, prisons, courts, PDs, but also in religion. Its a numbers game--and when they charge some for being kidnapped by the state, that is down right aweful! It is truly sad!

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#342611 - 2010-03-09 14:56:06 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
rudywoofs Offline
who?


Registered: 2005-07-15
Posts: 7601
talking on a cell phone while driving is illegal in Oregon now, unless it's hands-free
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There's no point in burying a hatchet if you're going to put up a marker on the site.
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