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#340786 - 2010-03-02 21:02:38 Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it?
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After watching "2012" with its thematic allusions to Biblical archetypes (namely Noah's ark), I'm left wondering exactly how the 2nd Coming will actually play out in terms of natural disasters and also wondered if maybe the Mayans knew something we still have to learn?

Also in light of my earlier question re: antediluvian topography, the most recent earthquakes and now the DVD release of 2012, I, as an Adventist raised up with powerful end-times scenarios am left wonderin'?

Will eschatological events follow natural occurrences or will they be put into being by God as necessary events in the prophetic timeline in which only He knows the day and the hour?

I guess we have historically emphasized the political/religious drama that will unfold but I wonder if Mother Earth is trying to send us some very strong signals?

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#340796 - 2010-03-02 21:23:01 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: abelisle]
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Haven't seen 2012 yet, not sure that when I do I'll let it influence me one way or the other.
I believe that yes mother earth has always been trying to send us a message! Its just that many just don't see, hear or listen to it. Doesn't EGW mention or maybe its in the Bible about the earth growing old and groaning because of what we are doing to it? Didn't God tell us to take care of this earth? I'd say we are not doing a very good job!

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#340819 - 2010-03-02 22:26:16 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: pkrause]
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ALEX

IT is rally hard to try to think about what
and how this will happen since the bible talks
about a time that the earth has never seen before

GOD is in control of the events of this
earth's history and I am sure that HE is using
HIS time line to fullfill end time events for this
earth's history

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#340821 - 2010-03-02 22:39:02 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: dgrimm60]
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PKRAUSE

YES like you I have not seen 2012 and I maybe not
watch it at all....GOD can and will end this earth
in HIS time and most movies just can not protray
the end time events

dgrimm60

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#340837 - 2010-03-03 00:23:46 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: abelisle]
CoAspen Online   walklikeegyptian


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Well, when I was growing up, the A Bomb was going to bring down the curtain on the world. Now, some people may think it will climatological disasters. I would surmise each generation has a different vision of what end times will be. We, as a church have taught much about end time scenarios so that people can judge the closeness of such and to be very afraid. We continue to give 'lip service' to not knowing when it will happen, but do everything we can to map it out!

Why did Christ tell the disciples about signs and wonders while at the same time saying even He not when the final moment would come. A careful reading shows that it was about giving them assurance of the truthful of his words, He would return, but not when.

Based on my longevity in the church I sometimes wonder about it all too. However, I no longer focus on it, end times, but today, that is all I can effect.

ps The film did an outstanding job depicting a catastrophic destruction of the planet...maybe they are on to something! No, it had nothing to do with Myans, that was all Hollywood story writing.
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#341436 - 2010-03-05 15:58:45 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: abelisle]
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will we be taking this plague by plague or just a "free for all"? :)

according to both the bible and sop, this planet will go through disasters, especially after the close of probation, that will leave it a wreck.


Edited by Tom Wetmore (2010-03-06 11:35:24)
Edit Reason: quotes removed
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#341643 - 2010-03-06 11:58:42 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: abelisle]
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OK, The Sheriff is back in town...

I have removed a couple strings of posts to a place of eternal torment. The apocalypse they caused within this topic basically derailed it from its original intent. The few hidden bits of substance within those posts were hardly worth saving.



Tom

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#341659 - 2010-03-06 13:59:06 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: Tom Wetmore]
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LOL, good for you Tom. You did a good thing.

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#341667 - 2010-03-06 14:17:03 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: Tom Wetmore]
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Sorry Tom I know I'm one of the culprits. I did do that on a few posts, forgot where I was. :)

backtopic

pk
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#342290 - 2010-03-08 16:28:58 Re: Apocalyptic eschatology - how do you envision it? [Re: pkrause]
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Me sorry too Tom (GC), Ya just gotta do whacha gotta do! I guess I will "let the rocks cry out".

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