#343545 - 2010-03-12 10:09:01
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: Neil D]
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Here is another take on earthquakes: DATES FROM & TO PERIOD NO. EARTHQUAKES (Mag. > 6.99) --------------------------- ----------- ------------------------------ 1863 to 1900 incl 38 yrs 12 1901 to 1938 incl 38 yrs 53 1939 to 1976 incl 38 yrs 71 1977 to 2014 incl * 38 yrs 144 (to Sept. 2009) predict >180 in total. *predicted from existing trends --------------- Entire article here: http://www.earth.webecs.co.uk/This site is from the UK, so it is less likely to be affected by conservative thought and hopefully will be more palatable for CA liberals.
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#343569 - 2010-03-12 11:50:39
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: karl]
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Speaking of the signs that will happen, leading to his return to judge the peoples of earth (at the end of the age), Jesus is quoted as saying ‘in various places there will be famines and earthquakes - these things are the beginning of birth pangs’ (ref: Matthew 24). Now, because birth pains begin small and then increase in intensity and frequency, this passage can be interpreted to mean that earthquakes (and famines - caused primarily through lack of rainfall in certain areas) will increase both in frequency and impact/strength prior to Jesus’ second coming. Although Jesus is clear that no one will know the day or the hour, and his return will indeed happen “when you do not expect”, he does give us broad pointers, one of these being natural events – like earthquakes. What's with this part? Does that website have a Christian bias or something?
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#343647 - 2010-03-12 16:22:03
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: SivartM]
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Speaking of the signs that will happen, leading to his return to judge the peoples of earth (at the end of the age), Jesus is quoted as saying ‘in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. What's with this part? Does that website have a Christian bias or something? Yeah, you're right. Christians probably shouldn't trust any data that includes any mention of Jesus or the BIble. Even if compiled in the UK. Probably part of a conspiracy to get people to think about the coming judgment and to prepare for the end of the age. We can't have that. Let's see what Richard Dawkins says and just go with his interpretation. That way there will be no bias.
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#343662 - 2010-03-12 17:15:38
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: karl]
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Well, it just seemed odd in the middle of a scientific report. Most researchers don't include theological exposition with their weather data. Then again, we have no idea who the researcher is, since that information isn't on the page.
It's also sort of ironic that the author uses the website that CoAspen posted in the OP as a reference.
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#343695 - 2010-03-12 20:20:56
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
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I have not been here to ClubAdventist.com for some time and maybe I'm missing something here, but doesn't Matthew 24:6, 7 tell us that wars and rumors of wars and things like earthquakes in different places are something we don't need to worry about?
"You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places."
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#343697 - 2010-03-12 20:24:12
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: Lineman]
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Good point, Lineman.
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#343700 - 2010-03-12 20:29:48
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: SivartM]
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Well, it just seemed odd in the middle of a scientific report. Most researchers don't include theological exposition with their weather data. Then again, we have no idea who the researcher is, since that information isn't on the page.
It's also sort of ironic that the author uses the website that CoAspen posted in the OP as a reference. Yes, there are differing viewpoints using the same site. But, I see that you and Lineman are going for the "no urgency" interpretation of Matthew 24. That would be the attitude of the people in Noe's day, don't you think?
Edited by karl (2010-03-12 20:32:39)
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#343702 - 2010-03-12 20:32:58
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: karl]
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Well, Jesus said that earthquakes would be the beginning of birth pains. He didn't show us a chart depicting earthquake frequencies over the next 2,000 years. :)
But... I'm not a seismologist. Any questions on how nutrition relates to the end times? :D
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#343737 - 2010-03-12 21:19:22
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
[Re: SivartM]
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I thought that IIW w/Shawn Boonstra did a pretty good job of last day stuff. Showing earthquake, hurricaine, and end time events.
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#343743 - 2010-03-12 21:22:33
Re: Earthquakes and 'end times'
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Neil has pointed at a possible direction to take discussion, Tom points out that Christ was misunderstood. Thinking caps on please, is Neil going in the right direction, and is tom correct?  My curious question, How does the data become liberal or conservative...numbers are numbers. Dig into the site I posted and you will find all the data right there. Maybe 10 isn't really 10, could be 100 or 1000? 
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