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#343634 - 2010-03-12 14:59:04 Re: So why is it? [Re: Pickie Chickie]
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#343637 - 2010-03-12 15:01:31 Re: So why is it? [Re: SivartM]
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I wish to direct everyone to the original question: how can otherwise intelligent and normal people believe this stuff?

I'm guessing they're bored and/or imbalanced. It probably stems from innate suspicion of everything and everyone.
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#343639 - 2010-03-12 15:38:28 Re: So why is it? [Re: Neil D]
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Originally Posted By: Neil D
Originally Posted By: karl

"Normal" is just a setting on the washer and dryer. It doesn't exist, sociologically speaking.




In physicolgical terms, there is concidered an acceptable range, or "normal". The ph of blood is between 7.35 to 7.45. The Saturations of Oxygen in the blood is 96% but an acceptable range is anything above 89, hence 90 to 96 is a range of acceptable saturations.

Socialogically speaking, there are acceptable behaviors that are concidered normal. Examples, SDAs concider Sabbath an important day in thier culture. It is normal to invite people to ones home to eat and have social contact. What is not normal, is those behaviors that are outside expected behaviors.

Thoughts?


A brief perusal of what you posted above reveals your (or anyone's) inability to define "normal."

Can't be done satisfactorily. Different people have different behavioral expectations.

That which is usual and customary to one group of people may be unusual to others and, therefore, outside their "feel" for "normal."

How would you like it if Jeffrey Dahmer were given the responsibility of defining "normal" for the rest of us?

Usual and customary can, in fact, be abnormal as can be evidenced by the average food ingestion here in the south.

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#343642 - 2010-03-12 16:07:03 Re: So why is it? [Re: SivartM]
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How can people believe "this stuff"?

What is "this stuff"?

You haven't even given us any solid examples, nor has the person who started this thread, of what exactly you are referring to!

What stuff?

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#343643 - 2010-03-12 16:08:53 Re: So why is it? [Re: karl]
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To many, conspiracy theories are just a realistic cynicism regarding human nature. Not all people in this world are honest, hard working and forthcoming about their intentions. Certainly we can all agree on this. So how did the term “conspiracy theory” get grouped in with fiction, fantasy and folklore? Maybe that, in itself, is a conspiracy. Just kidding. Or am I?

Skeptics are important in achieving an objective view of reality. Skepticism is not the same as reinforcing the official storyline. In fact, a conspiracy theory can be argued as a necessary alternative to the official or “mainstream” story of events. Conspiracy theory can help to balance the way the party in power rewrites history to fit its plans and expectations.

If there is only one story possible, then going with the mainstream is sensible. If there is more than one story possible - and there almost always is - skepticism is a useful tool in ferreting out truth from the plethora of propaganda.

Galileo was a skeptic to the mainstream explanation. So was Luther.

And never forget that Jesus was the Victim of conspiracy.

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#343644 - 2010-03-12 16:08:57 Re: So why is it? [Re: SivartM]
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Have you watched Loose Change?

And, do you agree that 911 was an inside job or do you think the towers magically collapsed in 13 seconds because the fire melted the steel?

If you have watched it and don't agree that credible information can be learned about 911, what documentary do you suggest we all watch?

Please post the video!


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#343646 - 2010-03-12 16:19:04 Re: So why is it? [Re: Pickie Chickie]
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Originally Posted By: Pickie Chickie
Have you watched Loose Change?

And, do you agree that 911 was an inside job or do you think the towers magically collapsed in 13 seconds because the fire melted the steel?

If you have watched it and don't agree that credible information can be learned about 911, what documentary do you suggest we all watch?

Please post the video!
No. I already read all the exposés, so I don't want to waste my time on something I know is inaccurate.

I don't believe either of those things. Towers don't magically collapse; that's absurd. They collapsed because the steel was weakened by the impact of a jet plane flying into it.
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#343649 - 2010-03-12 16:26:52 Re: So why is it? [Re: SivartM]
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I implore you to watch Loose Change.

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#343651 - 2010-03-12 16:29:48 Re: So why is it? [Re: Pickie Chickie]
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But... it's inaccurate. Actually, the producer said it was inaccurate.
http://www.oilempire.us/loose-change.html
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#343659 - 2010-03-12 17:09:26 Re: So why is it? [Re: SivartM]
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That web site was not published by the producer of the documentary "Loose Change".

Do yourself a favor and watch Loose Change then make your own decision after you watch it. It's not like you're going to end up possessed by demons!

Have an open mind! Don't base your opinion on what someone is saying on a website! Watch the actual video clips of the towers coming down that were obtained from witnesses which haven't been shown on TV!

I can't make you watch it but I will tell you that every single person who had the same opinion as you, who I asked to view Loose Change, that the towers fell because the steel weakened due to the jet fuel has CHANGED THEIR MIND without exception.

Also, how do you explain the third word trade center building, NUMBER SEVEN, collapsing when it did NOT get hit by a jet nor was there jet fuel burning inside it!



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