It is a delight to say I think Richard is correct here. I think I made the same observation sometime last year. I would just add that the one who gives all faithful servants meat in due season is the Holy Spirit.

I have wondered why John does not weigh in on this topic, but I imagine he has, sometime in the past.

Speaking of a topic, and getting back on topic, I would like to have a clearer understanding of how the three angels messages answer the three great deceptions of Satan.

The stone from the mountain of God which grows to fill the earth is the kingdom of God, but not the SDA church. This is the prophecy of the New Jerusalem and new (post millennium) earth.

This mountain of God represents the "mount of assembly" (har mowed) for all of creation. The stone represents the earth portion of that mountain. This is the place where heavenly battles are fought. Har Mowed. Har rhymes with car Mow with a long o - and ade, like kool-ade. Har mow ade. But in the ancient Hebrew it was pronounced with a hard "g" before the aide, so it was har mow gade. Harmowgade = Armageddon. Armageddon has nothing to do with the city or valley of Megiddo. It is the mount of the assembly, the mount of God. This is where the stone of Daniel 2 came from, and became the mount or kingdom of God for our world. This is in the future. And we can all be a part of that future if we follow Jesus, for He said he is the way and no one reaches the kingdom except through Him.

First off, God never punishes the faithful. I don't know where you get that idea, because it's not in the Bible. God only punishes the unfaithful. I know you profess to be unfaithful, and seem to wear it as a badge of honor. This is contrary to everything the Bible has to say about faith. Are you so backwards in your beliefs, that you think God is going to punish the faithful, and reward the wicked?

I read 48-51 again. It still doesn't say the servant should have known when, it only says that the Lord will come while he is not looking for him. From that, you surmise that he should have known, but that's not what it says. What it says is that he should have remained faithful, and been looking for the coming of the master. We are to remain faithful and be ready and looking, even though we don't know exactly when that will be.

Not one word is said about the servant being shown the exact time. Again the whole point of the parable is that we should be faithful, ready, and waiting. If you could show a text that says otherwise, I would change my belief. But there isn't one.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for you know not what hour your Lord does come.

Mat 24:44 Therefore be you also ready: for in such an hour as you think not the Son of man comes.

The best anyone can do, is to know when it is near.

Mat 24:33 So likewise you, when you shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Amen oldsailor

oldsailor wrote: "I have wondered why John does not weigh in on this topic, but I imagine he has, sometime in the past."

Could it be that John had already written about the end events in Revelation so he did not have to write about it in his gospel? Just wondering???

When taken all together, Dan. 2's Rock, Matthew 24's ONE head of the household, and Matthew 25's ten virgin prophecy, and then Rev. 2 and 3's messages to this Kingdom of Heaven while here on this earth just before Jesus comes, the evidence clearly points to the SDA church as this KOH, but they do not know it since they are spiritually sleeping.

And of course, it goes without saying that "Adventists" are not necessarily members of the SDA Church, but those who know that Jesus is going to come and keep the commandments AND the testimony (words) of Jesus.

The Bride are those who then head the three angels message during the time of trouble and are NOT Adventists because probation for Adventists is up just before the time of trouble. This is why it is very important to know what is going to happen and when. Let's not be found to be sleeping at that time!

Or off on some wild goose chase, setting time prophecies and teaching things that are not in the Bible. While ignoring things that are.




Could you show how that works, because none of these texts you have listed actually give any identifying marks that point to the SDA church. The message to the Laodiceans, I believe points out the condition of the SDA church, but still there are no distinguishing marks.

There are some texts that do distinguish the SDAs from the rest of the world, but none of them are the texts you mentioned.

Between 33 CE and 1843 there was no Kingdom of Heaven on earth. 33 CE marked the end of literal Israel as God's Kingdom. 1843 marked the end of the 2300 evening and morning prophecy of Dan 8:14, and the beginning of the time set aside for the restoration/cleansing of the Temple in Heaven. This prophecy began in 457 BCE with the decree to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem (national sovereignty was restore to Israel). The exact date when the final Kingdom of Heaven was put in place was Oct.23, 1843. The only organized body of believes that could possibly qualify as the Kingdom of Heaven in that year was the Millerite/Advent Movement, which eventually became the SDA church.

That qualifies as a 'distinguishing mark' in my book.

The SDA church was given a special commission by God to be His Kingdom on earth. We are the ONLY body of 'believers' that claim that the 10 Commandments are still in force. It was these same commandments, identified as the Covenant (Deut. 4:13), that established Israel as the Kingdom of Heaven at Sinai. God established/identified a final Kingdom of Heaven in 1843 (which is found in the prophecy in Dan.2 as the kingdom cut out of the Mountain of the Lord, without hands) by this same Covenant.

The name Seventh-day (commandments) Adventist (the King's return) has a reputation that is alive, but as of now our church is sound asleep (Matt. 25:1-13, Rev.3:1-2). The consanguinity is to perfect to ignore.

Israel was given two chances to become the Kingdom of Heaven. Jerusalem was the capitol city for this Kingdom. Jerusalem is the 'Great City' that is identified in Revelation. It is also identified as 'Babylon the Great'. Therefore when you read about the first of the three angels messages in Rev. 15 we can identify that it is Jerusalem that 'is fallen, is fallen' (2x). It is not Catholicism that is identified in the first angels message, it is Judaism.

I am actually a little surprised that no one has taken a stab at responding to my last post. Does this mean everyone agrees with me? (Me thinks not.)

The question should be, how can anyone NOT disagree?

Does that mean you agree or disagree?