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#343348 - 2010-03-11 15:10:40 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: RLH]
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Perhaps the city from space is attacked and overrun by evil forces, then transformed from a holy city into a harlot which promotes only wicked pleasures.


Let me make it a little plainer.

The above references Rev 12, the Woman and the Dragon. It was just an idea, and was not referring to the New Jerusalem which arrives on the scene much later according to Rev 21.

As far as Babylon being a symbol of an apostate church, Rev 18 states something different:

Rev 18:10
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...while they keep at a safe distance through fear of her anguish. They will say:
Mourn, mourn for this great city,
Babylon, so powerful a city,
in one short hour your doom has come upon you.


Perhaps to some, a day isn't really a day because it's a one-year long prophetic day, and, a city is not really a city because it's a religion.

Babylon is just another starship city, only it's run by the bad guys. They are coming to our planet to stock up with merchandise and slaves. Unfortunately for its passengers and crew, the city is blasted out of the sky before departure. Maybe they were planning to skip town without paying the bill.

The 3 Angels will broadcast their message to the entire planet after Babylon falls, according to Rev 14.

This subject really belongs in another location, so back to the topic at hand...

If we exercise due diligence in blocking evil thoughts and actions from our lives, the Spirit will give us what we need to become worthy servants of the LORD. When we no longer harbor the Virus of Evil, then we become holy, or sanctified. This may not occur until the Last Days.
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#343363 - 2010-03-11 16:41:42 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: Aliensanctuary]
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Originally Posted By: Ali
If we exercise due diligence in blocking evil thoughts and actions from our lives, the Spirit will give us what we need to become worthy servants of the LORD. When we no longer harbor the Virus of Evil, then we become holy, or sanctified. This may not occur until the Last Days.


I think I agree with you here. It is only through the power of God's Holy Spirit that we can block evil thoughts and actions. Some people sit and watch TV for half a day, and then wonder why they have evil thoughts. The Psalmist said:

Psa 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before my eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

And Paul said:


Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Spirit;

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Babylon is just another starship city, only it's run by the bad guys. They are coming to our planet to stock up with merchandise and slaves. Unfortunately for its passengers and crew, the city is blasted out of the sky before departure. Maybe they were planning to skip town without paying the bill.


I don't know where you get all this inter-galactic, space lingo. It doesn't come from the Bible or Ellen White. I've not seen anywhere in the book of Revelation where it refers to Babylon as a starship, or as coming from outer space, at all. I'm curious as to where you get the idea. Just because the angel said it will be thrown down with violence, doesn't mean that it came from outer space.

Babylon is a religous system right here on planet earth, not a starship from outer space.

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The 3 Angels will broadcast their message to the entire planet after Babylon falls, according to Rev 14.


The first and second messages [Revelation 14:6-8] were given in 1843 and 1844, and we are now under the proclamation of the third; but all three of the messages are still to be proclaimed. It is just as essential now as ever before that they shall be repeated to those who are seeking for the truth. By pen and voice we are to sound the proclamation, showing their order and the application of the prophecies that bring us to the third angel’s message. There cannot be a third without the first and second. . . . {CTr 338.3}
The book that was sealed was not the book of Revelation, but that portion of the prophecy of Daniel that related to the last days. . . . When the book was opened, the proclamation was made, “Time shall be no longer.” The book of Daniel is now unsealed, and the revelation made by Christ to John is to come to all the inhabitants of the earth. By the increase of knowledge a people is to be prepared to stand in the latter days. {CTr 338.4}
[Revelation 14:6, 7 quoted.] This message, if heeded, will call the attention of every nation and kindred and tongue and people to a close examination of the Word, and to the true light in regard to the power that has changed the seventh-day Sabbath to a spurious sabbath. . . . The Sabbath memorial, declaring who the living God is, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, has been torn down, and a spurious sabbath has been given to the world in its place. Thus a breach has been made in the law of God. . . . {CTr 338.5}
In the first angel’s message people are called upon to worship God, our Creator, who made the world and all things that are therein. . . . The message proclaimed by the angel flying in the midst of heaven is the everlasting gospel, the same gospel that was declared in Eden when God said to the serpent, “I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed.”Manuscript 32, 1896 (Manuscript Releases, vol. 17, pp. 6, 7). {CTr 338.6}


We see before us a special work to be done. We are now to pray as never before for the Holy Spirit's guidance. Let us seek the Lord with the whole heart, that we may find him. We have received the light of the three angels' messages; and we need now to come decidedly to the front, and take our position on the side of truth. {RH, October 13, 1904 par. 1}

The fourteenth chapter of Revelation is a chapter of the deepest interest. This scripture will soon be understood in all its bearings, and the messages given to John the revelator will be repeated with distinct utterance. {RH, October 13, 1904 par. 2}

The prophecies in the eighteenth of Revelation will soon be fulfilled. During the proclamation of the third angel's message, "another angel" is to "come down from heaven, having great power," and the earth is to be "lighted with his glory." The Spirit of the Lord will so graciously bless consecrated human instrumentalities that men, women, and children will open their lips in praise and thanksgiving, filling the earth with the knowledge of God, and with his unsurpassed glory, as the waters cover the sea. {RH, October 13, 1904 par. 3}

Those who have held the beginning of their confidence firm unto the end will be wide-awake during the time that the third angel's message is proclaimed with great power. During the loud cry, the church, aided by the providential interpositions of her exalted Lord, will diffuse the knowledge of salvation so abundantly that light will be communicated to every city and town. The earth will be filled with the knowledge of salvation. So abundantly will the renewing Spirit of God have crowned with success the intensely active agencies, that the light of present truth will be seen flashing everywhere. {RH, October 13, 1904 par. 4}

The saving knowledge of God will accomplish its purifying work on the mind and heart of every believer. The Word declares: "Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes." This is the descent of the Holy Spirit, sent from God to do its office work. The house of Israel is to be imbued with the Holy Spirit, and baptized with the grace of salvation. {RH, October 13, 1904 par. 5}






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#343600 - 2010-03-12 13:51:16 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Dr. Rich,

Praise the Lord for your son's recovery. I also pray that your son will take advantage of the grace God has provided. The Shack is a great starting point. It might be good to also give him a copy of The Message. Eugene Peterson has done a good job of displaying the agape`o of God in understandable western English vernacular. I will continue to pray for your son's complete restoration in relationship to God.

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#343645 - 2010-03-12 16:10:05 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: Musicman1228]
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Originally Posted By: Musicman1228
Rich called me just a few minutes ago to tell me that his son is partially awake. The Drs are going to take the breathing equipment out a little later and see how he does. Miracles do still happen.


Wonderful to hear, Musicman. God is still a miracle-working God who answers prayers.

I have a grandson who needs urgent prayer at this time. I just found out about it. It doesn't look good and without a miracle from God it doesn't look like he'll make it. His name is Samuel and he is only 4.

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#343776 - 2010-03-12 21:56:52 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: John317]
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John 317, I am praying for your grandson, and I will tell you that all of your prayers were answered even though my son is still not yet out of the woods. It will take time to heal, but the most important thing is he has a second chance to save his soul. Life is sooo precious and we all need to lean on each other during these last few years of this world. No matter what the differences we have now, it is clear that all of us trust God and will do what it takes to help others in an ever growing evil world.

Lord, not for our sake, but for Your sake and in Jesus name, I am asking You to look over Samuel and heal him and comfort his family. AMEN!

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#343789 - 2010-03-12 22:07:41 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: Dr. Rich]
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AMEN!

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#343893 - 2010-03-13 06:32:17 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: RLH]
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Amen.
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#344484 - 2010-03-14 22:34:10 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Dr. Rich, Praise the Lord that your son has survived this ordeal. Am praying that all will still go well.

pk
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#344489 - 2010-03-14 22:47:39 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: pkrause]
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Thanks PK and everyone who prayed for my son--for your prayers have been answered. I just left his hospital room and the medical personal are really surprised how well he is doing, and even that he survived at all! The hospital is the new St. Francis in Colorado Springs and what a wonderful place and wonderful people who work there! Praise God for all He does for us and most of the time we don't even realize it.

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#344493 - 2010-03-14 23:08:01 Re: What is meant by ... [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
Thanks PK and everyone who prayed for my son--for your prayers have been answered. I just left his hospital room and the medical personal are really surprised how well he is doing, and even that he survived at all! The hospital is the new St. Francis in Colorado Springs and what a wonderful place and wonderful people who work there! Praise God for all He does for us and most of the time we don't even realize it.


Well Praise the Lord Dr. Rich. Yes he does a lot for us. And most of the time we don't even know it, or just take it for granted.

pk
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"Government is the enemy, until you need a friend".
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Many people consider the things government does for them to be social progress but they regard the things government does for others as socialism.
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