Club Adventist
Welcome with open arms fellow believers who don’t see things the way you do.
And don’t jump all over them every time they do or say something you don’t agree with
– even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department.
Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently. Romans 14.1: The Message
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#343415 - 2010-03-11 20:47:25 legalists
Stan Offline
Very Adventist


Registered: 2006-09-15
Posts: 6148
Loc: Adventistan
Every notice that some go from being a conservative legalist to a liberal legalist?
_________________________
Stan

Even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department.
Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently. Romans 14.1: The Message

Top
.
#343424 - 2010-03-11 21:25:30 Re: legalists [Re: Stan]
olger Online   content


Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 7734
Loc: Ohio
Good point. Morris Venden called my attention to this in 1992.




g
_________________________
"Please don't feed the drama queens.."

Top
#343496 - 2010-03-12 07:49:11 Re: legalists [Re: olger]
dgrimm60 Online   content


Registered: 2001-08-19
Posts: 31389
Loc: dickson tenn
STAN

WELL that is an interesting point and thought

dgrimm60

Top
#343501 - 2010-03-12 07:54:56 Re: legalists [Re: Stan]
Woody Online   th_yap2
Swiss n Swedish American


Registered: 2006-12-09
Posts: 27084
Loc: A citizen of Heaven
So ... would you say it's a good thing to label certain peoples 'legalists' of ANY flavor? Hmmmm.
_________________________
May we be one so that the world may be won.
Christian from the cradle to the grave
I believe in Hematology.

Top
#343708 - 2010-03-12 20:40:59 Re: legalists [Re: Stan]
karl Offline


Registered: 2009-04-18
Posts: 2752
Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
Every notice that some go from being a conservative legalist to a liberal legalist?


Give us an example of a liberal legalist's belief system.

Top
#343842 - 2010-03-12 23:56:57 Re: legalists [Re: Stan]
teresaq(sda) Offline
Learning to take it to Jesus


Registered: 2009-04-01
Posts: 7553
Loc: Same as home church
Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
Every notice that some go from being a conservative legalist to a liberal legalist?
yes, :)

quite funny, actually. lol
_________________________
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Top
#343883 - 2010-03-13 04:46:28 Re: legalists [Re: karl]
karl Offline


Registered: 2009-04-18
Posts: 2752
Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
Every notice that some go from being a conservative legalist to a liberal legalist?


Give us an example of a liberal legalist's belief system.

Top
#343888 - 2010-03-13 06:17:57 Re: legalists [Re: karl]
olger Online   content


Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 7734
Loc: Ohio
Some people derive their security of salvation by the standards of the church that they uphold. Others, recoil away from that approach and derive their security of salvation by the standards that they discard. Both legalists.

Illustration. A person takes up dancing, drinking, jewelry, in order to prove that they are not a "legalist". Their focus is still upon the standards of the church not Jesus.

A much needed corrective is to remember that obedience is not legalism. We all need to be the kind of people who obey God out of their love.


oG
_________________________
"Please don't feed the drama queens.."

Top
#343891 - 2010-03-13 06:25:33 Re: legalists [Re: olger]
karl Offline


Registered: 2009-04-18
Posts: 2752
Originally Posted By: olger


Illustration. A person takes up dancing, drinking, jewelry, in order to prove that they are not a "legalist". Their focus is still upon the standards of the church not Jesus.

A much needed corrective is to remember that obedience is not legalism. We all need to be the kind of people who obey God out of their love.


oG


I don't see how trying to not be a legalist makes you a liberal legalist.

I agree very much with your second statement above. That was brought out very clearly in the second half of the lesson for this week. "To some people, obedience is inconsistent with righteousness by faith.... Righteousness is right doing... Our characters are revealed by what we do."

Top
#343892 - 2010-03-13 06:30:04 Re: legalists [Re: karl]
olger Online   content


Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 7734
Loc: Ohio
Hi Karl.

It's the motive that is problematic, the focus of both is on standards instead of Christ.

One side of the coin focus' on standards that they uphold, the other side focus' on the standards that they jettison. Neither are focusing on the Lord Jesus and yielding themselves to Him through love.
_________________________
"Please don't feed the drama queens.."

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >



sponsored links
Fantastic February Facebook Campaign
Sponsor ClubAdventist ads on Facebook $10 a day.
Options
Shout Box

Our AMAZON Store
Newest Members
abena, Sasha, titch, smerkette, dfwerew, creature1987, serena, alverne, Br.G, Lorenzo9869, Stabz21, Manatee, Scouter, Sunlight, His Servant, Dewa, David Sampathkum, johnsbravo, norfoith, Femster
4574 Registered Users
Instant upgrade
Sabbath Pulpit
Patty Froese Ntihemuka's Blog -
Top Posters (30 Days)
pkrause 1575
dgrimm60 1208
Woody 745
Naomi 517
Gail 444
Gibs 307
John317 243
doug yowell 230
Overaged 203
Dr. Rich 201
bonnie 200
RLH 191
Bravus 187
miz3 184
ClubV12 182
Shane 182
dialoguewithus 179
Stan 169
Lysimachus 160
olger 159
Today in History
Featured Member
Registered: 2000-04-05
Posts: 993
(Views)Popular Topics
Word of the Day 1506492
Weekly Bible trivia quiz! 1371596
The Law 1191275
Daily Bible Trivial facts 810319
Picture Needing a Caption ! 646788
WHAT IS RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH? 616435
When Christ's character shall be perfectly reproduced in his people... 593417
Lily Pads, by John 317 516199
Women's ordination is officially a "dead issue" 504337
Daily Lift by Rabbi Zelig Pliskin 502418
INTERnational Christian Education & Relief Society
Rented to - Better than Greens
Adventist Webdating
Rented to - Adventist Match
Forum Stats
4574 Members
110 Forums
31078 Topics
461212 Posts

Max Online: 2502 @ 2011-10-15 07:34:20
Top Posters
dgrimm60 31389
John317 31275
pkrause 27332
Woody 27084
Shane 26195
Gail 23124
Robert 21388
Amelia 20619
RLH 18995
Neil D 17431
Bravus 13740
Gerry Cabalo 13332
bonnie 8896
Gregory Matthews 8045
Naomi 8007
LifeHiscost 7867
Nan 7831
olger 7734
rudywoofs 7601
teresaq(sda) 7553
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays

THE CLUB ADVENTIST FORUM® is a self-supporting ministry and is not part of, or affiliated with, or endorsed by
The General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland or any of its subsidiaries.
Copyright © ClubAdventist.com® 1999 - 2020