>>So then you are only left with the words of Christ to the Jews defending the work of the Disciples in the service of Christ on the Sabbath by comparing that to the work of the Priests on the Sabbath?

A flaw in your argument which even you appeare to concede.<<



What work did the Disciples or the OT priests do that required hitching their beast(s) to do work upon the Sabbath day? I believe Writ tells us only that

good or "holy deeds" are permissible to one upon the Sabbath day; not the discomforting of beasts (Ex 20:10) that allowed one to seek after his or her own comfort.

Unless there was something bad wrong with a person’s ability to get there from here (or vice versa) upon the Sabbath day – there exists no lacuna in Writ which permitted the act of hitching up ol’ Dolly on the Sabbath to one’s wagon, buggy, cart, or whatever. Excusing such a thing serves only as premise for anyone thenceforward,

to construct any and all justifications for one’s own actions upon the Sabbath day.

That is – exactly – where the keeping of litmuses, shibboleths, dogmas, hocus-pocuses, etc re the Sabbath have come. Is it not good

that one furnish the Temple of Gd upon the Sabbath?—so, why is it that when assembled, the hunger of poseurs necessitates that they purchase meal tickets on any day of the week other than upon the Sabbath day - that they might eat upon the Sabbath day? Examples abound.

The Son of God was never born - he is infinite God from eternity past "having no beginning and no end" as Heb 7 states and as Micah 5:2 affirms.



I don't know of any text that says "if your sins are only covered by the blood of Christ then you burn in hell".

But I am sure that for some - it must be a nice fiction.

in Christ,

Bob

All I have to say is, God gave us a wonderful gift... The gift of decision... Free moral agents. However, after all that He has done for, and continues to do for us, why would anyone not want to worship Him? I hear people make excuses to not have to worship God, all the time. I love Him, and therefore want to worship Him:)

Welcome Heaven Bound. I really like your name. I'm with you. For I am also heaven bound. And I can't wait to go home. !!!

Is not this string is about the deception of the 'Church' in relationship to the 4th Commandment? Yet to my knowledge no one has addressed the issue of the 'Church' changing the day of rest (worship?) based on the Resurrection. The RCC says that since Jesus Christ was resurrected on Sunday morning the day of worship should be changed to Sunday to reflect that fact. I believe there is a valid argument against this but I would like you hear some of your ideas as to how to combat this misunderstanding.

I think it would be wise to address this issue since Easter is coming.

>>I believe there is a valid argument against this but I would like you hear some of your ideas as to how to combat this misunderstanding.<<

Perhaps, it may be that you should first clarify why
the premise is

"misunderstanding".

1st question: If Sabbath (the 7th day) is so important to God why would He go out of His way to virtually confirm a change of day based on any substantive event, including the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the tomb, especially give the fact that He would have to have known ahead of time what the result of that event would be?

2nd question: Knowing the result ahead of time (omniscience) why would God orchestrate events such that they would give Satan an opening with which to change the day?

3rd question: What if God orchestrated events to confirm the Sabbath via the resurrection but Satan stepped in (because of questions #1 and #2) and through religious bias and translation error the church accepted Satan's version of events as truth, thereby being deceived into believing that Sunday was the day upon which Jesus Christ was resurrected?

Are these questions valid, and if so would the answers cast doubt on Sunday (the 1st day of the week) as the actual day of the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Psalms 2:6 "But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain."
7 "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD : He said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.
8 'Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession.
9 'You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware .' "
10 Now therefore, O kings, show discernment ; Take warning, O judges of the earth.
11 Worship the LORD with reverence And rejoice with trembling.
12 Do homage to the Son, that He not become angry, and you perish in the way, For His wrath may soon be kindled. How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!

Isiah 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders ; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

Jesus is an eternal being because He was and is and always will be God, but He became the Son of God when He was placed in Mary's womb. Before He became the Son of God He lived in the form of an angel of the Lord and His name was Michael (Who is like God).

wayfinder, Jesus (Michael) has always been the Son of God.

Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual food; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 1Co 10:2-4

Dan 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Richard, I see that wayfinder erroneously wrote "Son of God" instead of "Son of Man" since he was replying to BobR. He probably meant to write that Jesus became the Son of MAN at that time--not the Son of God--Right? Don't we have scripture that say He was both, the Son of Man and the Son of God?