#345632 - 2010-03-18 23:01:11
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
 
[Re: jasd]
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Revelation 11:19 NAS And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm
The temple of God in heaven has the ark of the covenant in it, it is the same covenant given to Moses on Mt. Horeb. Moses was told that what he was building on earth was a likeness of what was already in heaven. The covenant is as eternal as everything in heaven. The covenant, which contains ten commands, was and is the covenant of the Holy People, the kingdom of God.
Michael no longer has the form of an angel, He now has the form of mankind. He took the form of man when He became a Son of Man, when He was firstborn of Mary.
Daniel 7:13 NAS [The Son of Man Presented] "I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him.
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#345639 - 2010-03-18 23:25:19
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: wayfinder]
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>>Revelation 11:19 NAS And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm
The temple of God in heaven has the ark of the covenant in it, it is the same covenant given to Moses on Mt. Horeb.<<
As I said, Gd secreted the Sabbath day.
>>Moses was told that what he was building on earth was a likeness of what was already in heaven.<<
That said, [extemporaneously] whatever happened to the Tabernacle at Shiloh? Did not Gd remove even both it and the very location of Shiloh?-so that, today, it is unknown? (unless one accepts what today’s Arabs impart)
So, Gd removed the entire Tabernacle and the location so that it exists only as historical legend; how easy then, that Gd might remove one article from His law?
>>The covenant is as eternal as everything in heaven.<<
Not so, except in part; that is, if we speak of the OT Covenant.
>>The covenant, which contains ten commands, was and is the covenant of the Holy People, the kingdom of God.<<
The Kingdom of Gd includes those who’ve never been told the Gospel or who do not know who Jesus Christ was/is. Those, even, whose religion is imparted by things created by Gd.
>>Michael no longer has the form of an angel, He now has the form of mankind. He took the form of man when He became a Son of Man, when He was firstborn of Mary.<<
Are you saying that Michael’s form determined whether He was Archangel or Gd?
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#345683 - 2010-03-19 02:16:10
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: jasd]
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He was God in the FORM of an archangel, just as now He is God in human form. Same being different form.
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#345848 - 2010-03-19 19:32:35
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: Musicman1228]
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>>He was God in the FORM of an archangel,<< Quote:jasd Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
The above is asked in the negative; that is, none.
There is no angel sitting at the right hand of Gd – arch, or otherwise. Are you proposing that an Archangel is exempted from the meaning given "angels" in Hebrews 1:13?
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#345855 - 2010-03-19 20:19:51
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: jasd]
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The Bible says that before He came to this earth, Christ was in the form of God, not in the form of an angel.
"... Christ Jesus. Who, being in the form of God, thought it not a thing to be violently striven for, and held fast, to be equal with God. But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man." Phil.2:6.
There is nothing in that verse which would even begin to suggest that He was in the form of an angel prior to His coming to this earth. The form of God He relinquished for ever but the glories of the form of God He relinquished only for a while. Now He is sitting at the right hand of God with the glories of the form of God upon His human form. This the redeemed will share.
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Edited by skyblue888 (2010-03-19 20:20:57)
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#345862 - 2010-03-19 20:38:23
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: skyblue888]
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skyblue888, Yes, Phil 2:6 does say that, but that is just the personal opinion of Paul. Look at Daniel and Revelation and what it says about Jesus Christ as being an 'angel'. Remember, God is God, what ever the appearance.
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